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PostSubject: Track ready street tyres comparison   Mon Oct 30 2006, 16:02

Can anyone put up field reports of our 'good tyres'?

Personal experiences only pls, or you can paste manufacturers' specs here so we dun have to go look for it.


Toyo T1R

Toyo R1R

(these are made famous by the Fast & Furious3 movie...)

there must be more and comparable for track use street tyres...

Bridgestone (what's the config?) RE01?

Firestone?

GoodYear Eagle F1. some swear by it... one of our bros use it on track and now forever curse it... but the circumstances of his experience need to be studied... I wun mind to put them on to try at sepang...

GoodYear Revspec2

Michellin Sport Pilot?

Kumho? They seem to have popular high performance tyres out there now... cheep and good...

Dunlop?

BF Goodridge? Cheep and good on the road when new, after 10,000km it becomes a different tyre...

Continental Sport Contact2? Tried these before on 17/18 inch rims... totally fantastic when new and within use. they wear out fast! 30,000km finish leow and i mean finish... botak... not no grip...

Falken 452?

AD07 ? I heard this one you need to have spare wheels/tyres to swap for rainy weather... AD07 will slip and slide from 60kmh in the wet... dunno how true is this... is so... these are really hardcore track tyres, but only for those who have second set for wet weather...


some of these names have been doing F1 tyres for a long time... cannot be less high performing than the Toyos right??? but anyone use them before?

There are many bros whom I know swear by the R1Rs... and they never gonna use other tyres till a better one comes into the market for that price...

I have personally seen the R1R perform... must say they are the tyres to match, or beat... but the price... is premium's premium... for made in Japan tyres...

dunno how the Michellin and Dunlop will perform for their high end street )track ready) tyres. the prices i asked... not cheep...


Now this thread is open for interested party's read, reference and discussion. Pls try to stay on track this round...


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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Mon Oct 30 2006, 18:05

Falken St115

Size used: 205/55/16

KM used: 15k km

So far seems to have not too much of complains

Tahan-able sound on E'way
Road noise might be loud on "rough" road
Handling wise so far so good on bends
Good grip on Rainy weather

Last u around 40K+ km (street driving)

Rate it a 4/5 overall
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Tue Oct 31 2006, 13:39

I have used a set of the ST115s... after 20,000km shit will start to happen... wet work performance drops drastically... and tyre roll noise will go up exponentially...

Sprints wise... waste time spinning at the start line after 30,000 km... no more grip


it's nice when new... yes... after that... cannot leow.
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Fri Nov 10 2006, 10:40

Falken ZE512

Size used: 205/50/16

KM used: abt 10k km

Personally, i felt these set of tyres gives me a reasonable amount grip.. even in dry or wet... or maybe bcos i haven much experience trying out other tyres.. only tried out the ST115s and the 512s.. my friend who sat in my car commented that my car is noisy.. but i dun feel that way.. either im hard of hearing already (at the age of 23) or im totally used to it already... hahha ... anyway im not really one who goes for ultimate comfort ... if i did i think i will soundproof the car with dunno how many layers already....

but i did a check with the stamford ppl .. they commented that the 512s are made of a softer rubber compound ... thus resulting in a better grip ... but the bad point is that since its made with softer rubber... it will definately not last as long as the other tyres.. so i sort of regrettted... im looking forward to change to the FK452... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Sat Nov 11 2006, 16:30

I do not think that the 512 are high performance tyres... they are rated below the entry level ST115... to be considered 'high performance'

yes, the 452s are 'high performance' the price will definitely reflect how much more went into those tyres...


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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Wed Nov 15 2006, 16:23

thinking very hard to try the new Bridgestone RE01Rs... shud be sweet on the tracks... but will KILL the pocket... see how first...


OK the T1Rs... are drift tyres... so you might want to consider when getting them... you drift?


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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Sun Nov 19 2006, 03:54

for me, if really track that often, i will get 2 set tyres.
1 set of semi slick, for track use only.
another set of good wet tyres for road use, like T1R, F1 tec.

wet track? better not to play with that unless got a set of semi slick for wet.

reason: during track, u want to play to the limit, do not care about wear and tear, else dun track.

daily use, especially in sgp, we need a set of wet tyres, for safety reason.

there are some semi road/track tyres, so call UHP tyres, like AD07, RT215, conticompetitionC1, R1R,A046. but most of them can't handle wet condition well.
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Fri Nov 24 2006, 15:22

in the case of 2 sets tyres... look at the RT615... they look awesome... but can they perform?

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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Sat Dec 02 2006, 14:02

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thinking very hard to try the new Bridgestone RE01Rs... shud be sweet on the tracks... but will KILL the pocket... see how first...


OK the T1Rs... are drift tyres... so you might want to consider when getting them... you drift?


hahaha...

drift tyres, means no much grip on the flr or can tahan drifting with lesser tear and wear compare to other tyres???
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Wed Dec 13 2006, 22:08

latest...

finally downsized to 15 inch rota storm rims and Falken RT615 tyres 205/50/15...

quite new... and considered 'semi-slick' tyres... treadwear rating is only 200... so i'd expect it not to last long at all... but hope it lives up to the name of being semi-slick, and grip like hell while it's in the useful lifespan range...

will report after breaking it in...

haha... yes... going to sepang again soon... will give more than just road drive report... actually road drive report quite pointless with this tyre...

expected it to be great in the dry and so-so to poor in the wet... but will see lor... this is the 'improved' version of the RT215... hope they improved the wet grip a bit...
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Mon Jan 15 2007, 12:06

Been on ST115 and used it for PG...Came back tire botak...Although it is not a track tyre, but still can lah if you on a budget but not to go too fast on the corner or do hard cornering. It tends to under steer alot and had to release the gas a bit in order not to overshot the corner....

Now using A048 and have fallen in love with it...Although VERY prisey but i love the grip. Had a chance to play with it on wet tarmac on PG last dec after rain coz dun wanna waste the trip there.... I nearly spun when the tyre hit the yellow and black strip on the corners....But on dry tarmac, this tyre bites...Now changing back to spare set of rims as this tyre wear off fast....


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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Mon Jan 15 2007, 12:40

whitefangz wrote:
Been on ST115 and used it for PG...Came back tire botak...Although it is not a track tyre, but still can lah if you on a budget but not to go too fast on the corner or do hard cornering. It tends to over steer alot and had to release the gas a bit in order not to overshot the corner....

Now using A048 and have fallen in love with it...Although VERY prisey but i love the grip. Had a chance to play with it on wet tarmac on PG last dec after rain coz dun wanna waste the trip there.... I nearly spun when the tyre hit the yellow and black strip on the corners....But on dry tarmac, this tyre bites...Now changing back to spare set of rims as this tyre wear off fast....
The way you drive... whoa sey.. any tyre also botak wan... Whahahahahah...lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Fri Jan 19 2007, 09:02

I have been using Dunlop SportMaxx for about a month now.

It has very good grip on the dry and holds pretty good on the wet. In fact, if you are travelling at normal speed in the rain, it feels like you are on the dry road.

When making a turn or cornering, you can feel that the front tires stick to the tarmac very well and the front drivetrain is under control. The sidewall is not extremely stiff, but definitely stiffer than the Bridgestone G3 that I was using. I have to adjust the damping of my shocks after the switch to SportMaxx.

I have not been travelling enough (2000km), so I could not comment on the thread wear. If I am not wrong the index is 220. Will report back again after putting more KM on it.

Overall, it's a good tire. Very under-rated and not that expensive. Good alternative to the popular F1. It's made in Japan, btw.
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Sat Jan 20 2007, 23:32

Agree that the SportMaxx from Dunlop is a premium tyre...

I was on the counterpart motorcycle tyres since a long time ago...

Sportmaxx name has been on premium Dunlop bike tyres long time leow... no surprises here if they put the name on their car tyre, it won't be 'lousy'.

surprising that damping required adjustment for the Dunlops vs the Bridgestone G3s...

can share the price for your size of tyres? btw, what size you using?
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Mon Jan 22 2007, 09:39

mcdss wrote:

surprising that damping required adjustment for the Dunlops vs the Bridgestone G3s...

can share the price for your size of tyres? btw, what size you using?

I think SportMaxx's sidewall is stiffer than the G3. The adjustment for the damping rate was not a lot, just a wee bit softer.

I am using 205/50/16. $140 pc from PH.

Btw, what size are you using for 15? 195/60/15?
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Wed Jan 24 2007, 01:18

wow you on 205/50/16? high profile leh...


me on 205/50/15 tires... normal size

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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Wed Jan 24 2007, 09:27

That's the size closest to stock though.. Very Happy

I think 205/55/15 will be closer to stock. Is it coz u wanna have a smaller wheel in circumference to improve pickup?
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Wed Jan 24 2007, 23:47

actually stock size is 195/55/15... the height is therefore: 10.725cm height of tire from road to the rim

205/50/15 is 10.25 cm height

205/55/15 is 11.275 height

I guess it is a bit smaller by 5mm ... it won't affect sprint speed at all becos it's 10mm wider... and 'more friction' compared to 195mm...


or did i get the stock tire size wrong?... didn't notice there was 205/55/15 tires...

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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 09:30

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actually stock size is 195/55/15... the height is therefore: 10.725cm height of tire from road to the rim

205/50/15 is 10.25 cm height

205/55/15 is 11.275 height

I guess it is a bit smaller by 5mm ... it won't affect sprint speed at all becos it's 10mm wider... and 'more friction' compared to 195mm...


or did i get the stock tire size wrong?... didn't notice there was 205/55/15 tires...

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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 10:25

Hmmm.. Stock size is 195/55/15? I always thought it's 195/60/15. That means my tire size is not correct then.
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 10:31

let me double check...you may be the one who is right... told you i might have remembered wrongly...
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 11:52

If not wrong stock size is 195/60/15

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let me double check...you may be the one who is right... told you i might have remembered wrongly...
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 12:20

mcdss wrote:
let me double check...you may be the one who is right... told you i might have remembered wrongly...

It's ok, bro. My memory is not good, I am not sure which one is correct now. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Thu Jan 25 2007, 12:23

whitefangz wrote:
If not wrong stock size is 195/60/15

mcdss wrote:
let me double check...you may be the one who is right... told you i might have remembered wrongly...
Yurp confirm its 195/60/15... but 205/55/15 wld have stiffer walls to handle coners...
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PostSubject: Re: Track ready street tyres comparison   Sat Jan 27 2007, 00:28

haha ok i stand corrected!

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wow so 205/50/15 is actually smaller than stock???

whoa... tot it's 'as big' as stock leow...


so now my milage, FC numbers, etc all wrong la!!!???

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