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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Wed Dec 27 2006, 13:12

have noticed quite a few bros using Redline here... which Redline is a good buy and where do I get it...?
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Wed Dec 27 2006, 21:41

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have noticed quite a few bros using Redline here... which Redline is a good buy and where do I get it...?
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What visocity of engine oil you are using or looking to use?

I think can get from this mxtrading website ba

I got mine from last SHC group buy.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Wed Dec 27 2006, 23:31

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have noticed quite a few bros using Redline here... which Redline is a good buy and where do I get it...?
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5w30. contact terence @ 90262657. u shd b looking @ abt 20ish bux per qt.....Cool
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 10:27

rOcH wrote:
DaDude wrote:
have noticed quite a few bros using Redline here... which Redline is a good buy and where do I get it...?
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What visocity of engine oil you are using or looking to use?

I think can get from this mxtrading website ba

I got mine from last SHC group buy.

thanks b.. will compare with DV's price.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 10:27

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have noticed quite a few bros using Redline here... which Redline is a good buy and where do I get it...?
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5w30. contact terence @ 90262657. u shd b looking @ abt 20ish bux per qt.....Cool

Nice... will do so... thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 13:32

Why not organise a group on redline engine oil?

Then price can be in the region for $1*.**

More bros can benefit as well.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 13:37

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Why not organise a group on redline engine oil?

Then price can be in the region for $1*.**

More bros can benefit as well.

This shd ask DV... I for it but do not have the contacts...

DV... how???
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 13:44

Arrow king leh you Suspect Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Dec 28 2006, 15:03

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Arrow king leh you Suspect Laughing

Ehhh... no no no... this time I am not arrowing horrr... this serious...
I do not have the contacts for oils... I wish I had Twisted Evil

DV's the only one that responded other than you so I am SUGGESTING only... If he cld so kindly look into it... After all anyone who knows can start a grp buy,,.. I am for it cos my servicing is due proly in early Feb or sooner... and I believe some bros here wld not mind getting some too!

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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Tue Jul 31 2007, 18:01

I'd tot you using KIC oil...

seems kinda expensive, even more expensive than the V300 motul...

must be Japanese oil cream...
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Tue Jul 31 2007, 18:19

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I'd tot you using KIC oil...

seems kinda expensive, even more expensive than the V300 motul...

must be Japanese oil cream...
erm... see posting date... scratch
and yes... I SWEAR by KIC now... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Tue Jul 31 2007, 18:29

additional info on question of field report on Motul V300 oil


I have used two engine oils on two occassions at Sepang:

Elf Excellium Fully Synthetic oil 5W-40

and

Motul V300 5W-30

Both felt good in the full throttle runs, and both stayed in the engine for 10,000 km before i drained them.

Next round i feel like using the Redline 5W-20 ... just to try out...

just hope all the theories from bro megalord prove to be correct. else my beloved Turtle will have a melt-down...
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Tue Jul 31 2007, 18:32

mcdss wrote:
additional info on question of field report on Motul V300 oil


I have used two engine oils on two occassions at Sepang:

Elf Excellium Fully Synthetic oil 5W-40

and

Motul V300 5W-30

Both felt good in the full throttle runs, and both stayed in the engine for 10,000 km before i drained them.

Next round i feel like using the Redline 5W-20 ... just to try out...

just hope all the theories from bro megalord prove to be correct. else my beloved Turtle will have a melt-down...
I am sure megalord will re-imburse you for any melt-down... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Wed Aug 01 2007, 19:45

hahaha... like when the borg attacks...

in any case, i will monitor, and change out immediately if got any hint of problem... bring a few quarts spare of higher viscosity... and new filter to do it...


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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Mon Aug 27 2007, 19:30

internal wear and tear is something we cannot deteck easily.

May be you want to install a magnetic drain plug, each drain and check how is the wear rate through observing the how much metal has been worn and stick on the drain plug.

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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Mon Aug 27 2007, 20:24

rOcH wrote:
internal wear and tear is something we cannot deteck easily.

May be you want to install a magnetic drain plug, each drain and check how is the wear rate through observing the how much metal has been worn and stick on the drain plug.

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So hav u done it..?
Whats your findings..?
Motul better than KIC..?

pray tell..
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Thu Aug 30 2007, 12:40

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rOcH wrote:
internal wear and tear is something we cannot deteck easily.

May be you want to install a magnetic drain plug, each drain and check how is the wear rate through observing the how much metal has been worn and stick on the drain plug.

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So hav u done it..?
Whats your findings..?
Motul better than KIC..?

pray tell..

Nope, have not try KIC yet.

Nothing done. Only tried redline and motul today and the usual easy to get engine oil in the market.

If really want to find out, best is to do the test kit for engine oil (can't remeber the name for the test) but i'm not technically incline to read the data so kind of put off by this mean.

If megalord can be here to provide his understanding to the numbers Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 01:38

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internal wear and tear is something we cannot deteck easily.

May be you want to install a magnetic drain plug, each drain and check how is the wear rate through observing the how much metal has been worn and stick on the drain plug.

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So hav u done it..?
Whats your findings..?
Motul better than KIC..?

pray tell..

Nope, have not try KIC yet.

Nothing done. Only tried redline and motul today and the usual easy to get engine oil in the market.

If really want to find out, best is to do the test kit for engine oil (can't remeber the name for the test) but i'm not technically incline to read the data so kind of put off by this mean.

If megalord can be here to provide his understanding to the numbers Laughing
WTF...! you in to that MF's Shit... Fuck... than good luck...!
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 11:17

hee hee hee.... dude... your axe seems to be growing bigger wif time...

need a bigger grinder leow...

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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 18:52

Open discussion lah, nothing wrong in having something to back up isn't it?

How ML write i'm not concern. But from a certain point of view, the fact he bring out is something one can pounder on. How to grade which engine oil is better? Based on what?

There must be something as the baseline for comparison to be fair and eminlinate certain bias and unobjective point of view. Personal feel is an experience. But that experience may not be the whole truth on the performance of the engine oil.

It is like the dyno result which one can argue. If done properly, an increase of 15 hp is an increase of 15hp. That is fact. Whether the increase of 15hp can make the same car go faster or performance better is another issue.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 21:31

bigger axes r needed to kill bigger boars lol!
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 21:36

AXE..? Hmmm... doubt its that small... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Fri Aug 31 2007, 21:37

rOcH wrote:
Open discussion lah, nothing wrong in having something to back up isn't it?

How ML write i'm not concern. But from a certain point of view, the fact he bring out is something one can pounder on. How to grade which engine oil is better? Based on what?

There must be something as the baseline for comparison to be fair and eminlinate certain bias and unobjective point of view. Personal feel is an experience. But that experience may not be the whole truth on the performance of the engine oil.

It is like the dyno result which one can argue. If done properly, an increase of 15 hp is an increase of 15hp. That is fact. Whether the increase of 15hp can make the same car go faster or performance better is another issue.
Like I said... Gd luck..! Nuff said about MF's... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Sat Sep 01 2007, 16:23

For information only. Not for promotion or highlight any particular brand.

Source:
http://www.scooterhelp.com/genmaintain/crankcase.oil.html

Part of information from this website, for more detail read the source.

Synthetic - a process, not material. Synthetic oil is not made from the same base. In the US, there are mainly two types of sythetic engine oil - PAO and synthetic ester.

PAO = Poly-alpha-olefine = synthesized petroleum oil
Pros: PAO are better than regular petroleum oil for handling heat, oxidation, low temperature startups and higher firm strength. PAO's are not very expensive because they are made from crude oil and produced in large quantities.

Cons: PAO and petroleum are dynamic types of oil, you have to build up oil pressure and have rotation before a film is produced.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the Best Engine Oil for your CAR?   Sat Sep 01 2007, 16:35

The other main type of sythetics are synthetic esters (diester, polyolesters, polyesters and complex esters).

Esters are mpstly made of vegetables, minerals and animal fatty acids. Esters are much more expensive because the ingredients have to be collected from natural resources and synthesized in smaller quantities. Esters have all the advantages of a PAO but more of them. It can handles heat better and when burned, esters leave far less coking deposits.

Esters are static types of oils and are attracted to metal parts with an electro-chemical bond. This means no more metal to metal start ups. Which indicates that a film is ther before the oil pressure light goes out, preventing premature wear of high-stressed parts. The film created is up to 5 times stronger than petroleum oil.
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