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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops
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I test drove the Lancer CVT b4.... really quite bad lah...
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Rookie wrote:
yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Can a ES5 tia a CS5?   Can a ES5 tia a CS5? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 17 2006, 13:59

Rookie wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat
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Rookie wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad
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beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad

wo bu gan xing!!!!! Mad Evil or Very Mad scratch
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beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad
pls lor, airtrek cc so big, pickup can't even match ar, don't even mention the turbo... even FD 2.0l we lose like mad... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Can a ES5 tia a CS5?   Can a ES5 tia a CS5? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 17 2006, 14:19

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beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad
pls lor, airtrek cc so big, pickup can't even match ar, don't even mention the turbo... even FD 2.0l we lose like mad... Rolling Eyes


The pickup for airtrek w/o Turbo quite bad lei... as bit sluggish... The pickup for Tuscon is slightly better than the Airtrek...
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FD2.0... no need to say, I drove that car for a week... love it... our ES will lose in low/mid/high flat.... Mad
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beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad

wo bu gan xing!!!!! Mad Evil or Very Mad scratch
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MTL... Add Turbo!!! afro
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beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
beemer wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Phuturist wrote:
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....
sorry bro, cs5 is the normal lancer Question
i thot shld b able to rite?? cyclops

errr think u are talking about the CS3.

cos this CMI bro in law of mine sold his Maz6 and told me he bought a lancer ralliaret turbo, and posted around for fellow CS5 owner Very Happy
oh so it's a lancer ralliart turbo ah? in that case i don't think so, unless u oso lup a low boost turbo, can increase abt 20 bhp, then can match pirat

I test drove a Airtrek Turbo before.... Ours cannot compare... Pickup may win but once turbo cut in, we eat smoke and cry.... Mad
pls lor, airtrek cc so big, pickup can't even match ar, don't even mention the turbo... even FD 2.0l we lose like mad... Rolling Eyes


The pickup for airtrek w/o Turbo quite bad lei... as bit sluggish... The pickup for Tuscon is slightly better than the Airtrek...
that's cos of the weight... but once the turbo lai liao, smell smoke lor pale
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FD2.0... no need to say, I drove that car for a week... love it... our ES will lose in low/mid/high flat.... Mad
yeah man... but looking fwd to the CTR Twisted Evil king
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FD2.0... no need to say, I drove that car for a week... love it... our ES will lose in low/mid/high flat.... Mad
yeah man... but looking fwd to the CTR Twisted Evil king

Yalor.... that one really cannot see tail lights liao.... lol!
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FD2.0... no need to say, I drove that car for a week... love it... our ES will lose in low/mid/high flat.... Mad
yeah man... but looking fwd to the CTR Twisted Evil king

Yalor.... that one really cannot see tail lights liao.... lol!
yeahhhhh mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn Can a ES5 tia a CS5? Eusa_drool
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FD2.0... no need to say, I drove that car for a week... love it... our ES will lose in low/mid/high flat.... Mad
yeah man... but looking fwd to the CTR Twisted Evil king

Yalor.... that one really cannot see tail lights liao.... lol!
yeahhhhh mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn Can a ES5 tia a CS5? Eusa_drool
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yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....

Finally a Technical thread!

First of all talk is cheap. Let's compare a stock to stock car. 1.6 Litre ES5 vs 1.6 Litre CS3 (I think)

Lancer

Displacement 1584 cc
Max Output 79(106)/6,000kW(PS)/rpm
Max Torque 142(14.5)/2,750N-m(kg.m)/rpm
Kerb Weight 1,085kg

Civic

1.6l SOHC
VTEC 110ps
Torque : 152?
Max weight 1000+ also

Looking at the hp and the torque ratings, I will say the ES has no problems in overtaking a lancer.

However, take note that the difference will not be much, after all it's just a few horses more.

I believe, in the higher RPM, the Honda VTEC part will help in the overtaking


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cs5 is 1.8L keh...c.c wise not fair to compare......('Evil or Very Mad')
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urrrrgggghhhhhh Evil or Very Mad I wanna tia a CS5!!! drunken Suspect
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cs5 is 1.8L keh...c.c wise not fair to compare......('Evil or Very Mad')


urrrrgggghhhhhh Evil or Very Mad I wanna tia a CS5!!! drunken Suspect

With Turbo... difficult lah.... No
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cs5 is 1.8L keh...c.c wise not fair to compare......('Evil or Very Mad')


urrrrgggghhhhhh Evil or Very Mad I wanna tia a CS5!!! drunken Suspect

lets go tc our es......who's w me? Twisted Evil
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darth vader wrote:
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cs5 is 1.8L keh...c.c wise not fair to compare......('Evil or Very Mad')


urrrrgggghhhhhh Evil or Very Mad I wanna tia a CS5!!! drunken Suspect

lets go tc our es......who's w me? Twisted Evil

hehehe was talking to Xiao S abt this yesterday. think i still prefer engine swap
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xiaonick wrote:
Rookie wrote:
yes, undertand that the spec are grossly different but I have this personal agenda to tia a CS5 Very Happy Twisted Evil

also heard thsat CS5 engine is weak. hmmmmm.....

Finally a Technical thread!

First of all talk is cheap. Let's compare a stock to stock car. 1.6 Litre ES5 vs 1.6 Litre CS3 (I think)

Lancer

Displacement 1584 cc
Max Output 79(106)/6,000kW(PS)/rpm
Max Torque 142(14.5)/2,750N-m(kg.m)/rpm
Kerb Weight 1,085kg

Civic

1.6l SOHC
VTEC 110ps
Torque : 152?
Max weight 1000+ also

Looking at the hp and the torque ratings, I will say the ES has no problems in overtaking a lancer.

However, take note that the difference will not be much, after all it's just a few horses more.

I believe, in the higher RPM, the Honda VTEC part will help in the overtaking
out of pt Rolling Eyes
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cs5 is 1.8L keh...c.c wise not fair to compare......('Evil or Very Mad')
yup yup... that's why it's gonna be tough... Evil or Very Mad
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